Comments on: Truth, Rumours, Real Science and the Social Graph http://www.mediaphilosopher.com/2008/09/16/truth-rumours-real-science-and-the-social-graph/ A conversation about media & stuff Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:40:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Paul Prescod http://www.mediaphilosopher.com/2008/09/16/truth-rumours-real-science-and-the-social-graph/#comment-58 Paul Prescod Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:35:29 +0000 http://www.mediaphilosopher.com/2008/09/16/truth-rumours-real-science-and-the-social-graph/#comment-58 I clicked through to the linked article and found that the issue of perspectives was already addressed even in the soundbites: "I'm not a fan of giving a website a simple number like an IQ rating because like people they can vary in all kinds of different ways," he said. "So I'd be interested in different organisations labelling websites in different ways". I clicked through to the linked article and found that the issue of perspectives was already addressed even in the soundbites:

“I’m not a fan of giving a website a simple number like an IQ rating because like people they can vary in all kinds of different ways,” he said. “So I’d be interested in different organisations labelling websites in different ways”.

]]> By: Michael Cayley http://www.mediaphilosopher.com/2008/09/16/truth-rumours-real-science-and-the-social-graph/#comment-56 Michael Cayley Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:24:26 +0000 http://www.mediaphilosopher.com/2008/09/16/truth-rumours-real-science-and-the-social-graph/#comment-56 It is a great post. Variation is the key to natural selection and that is how ideas spread. I.e., memetically. Trust is a collective asset, an extrinsic variable of social capital, one of many. Social capital can help ideas spread faster or slower. The social capital in social graphs already contains the kind of "trust worthiness" gate keeping that Sir Tim is talking about. Do we need an artifact to symbolize it? Won't that artifact just end up being another factor that free thinkers will take into consideration at the time of transaction? Another floating currency? I suppose such a currency could speed negotiations, i.e., deliberation over how an idea will be varied before it is passed. It is a great post.

Variation is the key to natural selection and that is how ideas spread. I.e., memetically.

Trust is a collective asset, an extrinsic variable of social capital, one of many. Social capital can help ideas spread faster or slower.

The social capital in social graphs already contains the kind of “trust worthiness” gate keeping that Sir Tim is talking about.

Do we need an artifact to symbolize it? Won’t that artifact just end up being another factor that free thinkers will take into consideration at the time of transaction? Another floating currency?

I suppose such a currency could speed negotiations, i.e., deliberation over how an idea will be varied before it is passed.

]]> By: David Alston http://www.mediaphilosopher.com/2008/09/16/truth-rumours-real-science-and-the-social-graph/#comment-55 David Alston Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:12:25 +0000 http://www.mediaphilosopher.com/2008/09/16/truth-rumours-real-science-and-the-social-graph/#comment-55 Great post Marcel. Unfortunately all the books we have are still packed because of our move but I read recently that it's impossible to ever tell a story exactly the way it happened because in order to capture what happened you need to have a human mind interpret the situation. It's the human mind that becomes the wild card in each situation and no matter how hard one tries no human mind will interpret the exact situation. You then in order for the story to spread it must be heard by other human minds which again interpret the story in their own way. Again, no matter how hard the second generation tries to understand the original story exactly their minds will interpret things slightly different. So, regardless of social media or real life truth, determining what happened exactly is impossible because of the human element. IMHO, to try to determine truth, at best, is an interpreted game and always will be. Great post for making us all think Marcel. Great post Marcel. Unfortunately all the books we have are still packed because of our move but I read recently that it’s impossible to ever tell a story exactly the way it happened because in order to capture what happened you need to have a human mind interpret the situation. It’s the human mind that becomes the wild card in each situation and no matter how hard one tries no human mind will interpret the exact situation. You then in order for the story to spread it must be heard by other human minds which again interpret the story in their own way. Again, no matter how hard the second generation tries to understand the original story exactly their minds will interpret things slightly different. So, regardless of social media or real life truth, determining what happened exactly is impossible because of the human element. IMHO, to try to determine truth, at best, is an interpreted game and always will be.

Great post for making us all think Marcel.

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